A father who suspected his baby girl had fallen ill with Covid has taken to an underground chat group for advice, with shocking consequences.
The terrifying extent to which unproven Covid advice is spreading and putting lives at risk has been revealed in a young father’s cries for help on an underground messaging group.
The American dad, who was named Jason, became concerned when his six-month-old daughter, Ruby, started experiencing flu-like symptoms.
The girl’s mother had tested positive for Covid the previous week, and Jason said she was “worried” for the little girl.
But instead of taking the baby to see a doctor, Jason decided to ask a QAnon Telegram group – filled with tens of thousands of people who think Covid is a hoax – what to do.
The group was infiltrated by a reporter from Vice, who followed the chilling conversation.
“Do you think it is safe to give ivermectin to an infant?” Jason wrote in the newsgroup.
Ivermectin is an antiparasitic drug used to treat infestations in humans, including head lice, scabies, and river blindness. It has become one of the most debated drugs in the past two years since researchers showed it could kill SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes Covid-19) in the lab.
There is no clinical evidence that it works to treat or prevent Covid-19. And there is a broad medical consensus that people should not take ivermectin at home for illness.
The group Jason approached for advice, however, spent months sharing information on how to get ivermectin.
According to Vice, the members are also sharing advice on how to avoid going to the hospital and how to deal with symptoms of COVID — which they don’t believe exist — at home.
‘Baby some aspirin to thin the blood a bit and bring the fever down and I’ll put ivermectin under his feet,’ one member of the group replied – while others said he should wait to take the opinion of “experts” in the use of ivermectin on the grouper.
A user called Katie, who claimed to be an expert, replied.
“From what I understand, yes it is safe to give it to a baby, but please stop calling it Covid, it’s not Covid, it’s just a common cold This is how we got into this mess to begin with,” Katie wrote.
Jason took the advice and gave his baby a dose of ivermectin.
“We gave her two doses of ivermectin at 50mg each. That’s what was recommended by someone here. She got really sick after that. Related? I don’t know,” Jason said in an update.
Within minutes, Jason reported that his baby girl’s condition was deteriorating.
“Baby threw up. Is that a common side effect? She also gets a little blue,” Jason said.
Surprisingly, someone said this had happened to their child as well and they took him to the hospital – something Jason didn’t feel like doing.
Jason replied, “We don’t trust hospitals. I told my son to give him more ivermectin.
The band members begged Jason to go to the hospital.
“This baby needs to go to the emergency room. Don’t hesitate,” wrote a member of the group called Barbara, who said she was a respiratory therapist. “I’ve seen too many go south due to low O2 levels. Blue is hypoxia and it’s lack of oxygen at the tissue level. Please!”
Finally, Jason told the group, the child was taken to the hospital.
“[My] son takes baby to emergency care. Against my will but I pray for her. It’s in God’s hands now,” Jason wrote before later adding an update that Ruby was “doing better.”
“God knew what to do even though I thought hospital was certain death,” Jason wrote Wednesday night. “Thanks for everyone’s advice.”
The US isn’t the only place Covid patients are scrambling to get unproven treatments like ivermectin.
In Australia, the TGA has imposed restrictions on the prescription of oral ivermectin in the context of high demand.
GPs can now only prescribe ivermectin for conditions approved by the TGA – scabies and certain parasitic infections.
“These changes have been introduced due to concerns about the prescription of oral ivermectin for the prevention or claimed treatment of Covid-19, the TGA said.
“Ivermectin is not approved for use in Covid-19 in Australia or other developed countries, and its use by the general public for Covid-19 is currently strongly discouraged by the National COVID Clinical Evidence Taskforce, l ‘World Health Organization and US Food and Drug Administration.
He says there are three main reasons for their concern.
“First, there are a number of significant public health risks associated with taking ivermectin for the purpose of preventing infection with Covid-19 rather than getting vaccinated,” he said.
“People who think they are protected from infection by taking ivermectin may choose not to get tested or seek medical attention if they have symptoms. This has the potential to spread the risk of infection to Covid-19 throughout the community.
“Second, the doses of ivermectin advocated for use in social media posts and other unreliable sources for Covid-19 are significantly higher than those approved and found to be safe for scabies or the treatment of parasites.
“These higher doses may be associated with serious adverse effects including nausea, vomiting, dizziness, neurological effects such as lightheadedness, seizures and coma.
“Finally, there has been a 3-4x increase in the dispensing of ivermectin prescriptions over the past few months, resulting in national and local shortages for those in need of medication for scabies and parasitic infections.
“This is believed to be due to recent prescriptions and dispensing for unapproved uses, such as Covid-19. Such shortages can disproportionately impact vulnerable people, including those in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities.